Blue Oval Fanatics - Ford Forum

Go Back   Ford Forums & Technical Discussions > Ford Cars > Ford Mustang > Technical Discussions

Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Unread 04-19-2013, 05:27 PM   #1
white89gt
Administrator Shane
 
white89gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 1293
Location: Salt Lake, UT
What I Drive: 1989 Mustang GT, 1997 F150

Posts: 5,016
Rep Power: 75
white89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Member
Project Taurus Fan - Volvo Relay and BMW Switch

I thought I would show what I am doing with my install of the Taurus fan. I chose the Taurus fan because it really sucks. Sucks a lot of air through the radiator that is (don't know the CFM, sorry). I've searched high and low for a cost effective suitor to control thisTaurus fan I bought. The best method I've found to achieve my goal is using the fan control relay out of a 93-97 Volvo 850 (part number 1398845). The reason I really like this option (besides cost) is that it will run both speeds of the fan. Most of the controllers I looked at only use one speed. To run both speeds though, it requires a trigger for each speed. Enter the BMW switch. These can be found on the 96-98 318I, 95-99 318TI, and the 96-98 Z3. The other nice thing about these switches is the fact you can get it in two temp settings, depending on the thermostat you are running. One switch (part# 61318361787) has the low speed kick on at 180F, while the high kicks in at 195F. The other switch (part# 61311378073) has the low speed kick on at 195F, while the high kicks in at 210F. I run a 180 thermostat, so I went with the first switch.

EDIT: The part numbers for the BMW Sensor connector are below in BOLD (It come in pieces, and needs assembled)

#61131378412 - BMW 90 degree angle connector (Wire Housing - Black Plastic)
#61130007445 - BMW 90 degree angle green connector wires (Need 2)
#61130007446 - BMW 90 degree angle green/black connector wire (Need 1)


All of it is exceptionally cheap considering they are dealer only. I got all of it for under 10 bucks.


Update (10/7/14):

For a 180 Thermostat, use BMW part# 61318361787
For a 194 Thermostat, use BMW part# 61311378073



Here is what I've gathered so far:

I have a new stock warranty replacement (FREE) aluminum radiator , and the Taurus fan (9 dollars out the door) sitting next to it. The Taurus fan covers a good portion of the radiator. I'm thinking I will try it like this to begin with, and possibly incorporate it into the factory shroud later.


Here is the relay I am using from a 97 Volvo 850. On the Volvo, this unit located on the underside of a panel that sits directly above the fan. That may be useful to someone... I scratched my head for a bit before I realized it was there.



MORE TO COME!

I would also like to thank the author of this thread over on nastyz28.com - http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=200028 - this thread greatly aided in my decision.
white89gt is offline  
 
  Reply With Quote
Unread 04-19-2013, 05:34 PM   #2
RangerSVT
Co-Founder
 
RangerSVT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Fan#: 1269
Location: Indian Mound, TN
What I Drive: V8 Fords

Posts: 4,525
Rep Power: 75
RangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True Fanatic
Nice project. As always, post up plenty of pics, Shane! I will have to post up my upgrade when I redo my E-fan setup on SVT


SVT
__________________
In-house Ranger Tech Expert
96 V8 4x4 Ranger on 47's
02 V8 4x4 Sport Trac on 32's
Y2K F150 4x4 Lariat
RangerSVT is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-27-2013, 12:58 AM   #3
white89gt
Administrator Shane
 
white89gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 1293
Location: Salt Lake, UT
What I Drive: 1989 Mustang GT, 1997 F150

Posts: 5,016
Rep Power: 75
white89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Member
Maybe it's just late..... and I'm not thinking correctly. But I was just thinking that if this temp switch is a negative trigger - I'm going to wire a relay to it for the main supply or else this thing is going to run whenever it feels the need. Damn damn damn. Maybe I'll just use a starter relay.



Sent from my Quad Core Acer A210
__________________
white89gt is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-27-2013, 05:04 PM   #4
white89gt
Administrator Shane
 
white89gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 1293
Location: Salt Lake, UT
What I Drive: 1989 Mustang GT, 1997 F150

Posts: 5,016
Rep Power: 75
white89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Member
I started out with intentions of just mounting the Taurus fan right to the radiator, as is. I even went as far as mounting my overflow to the Taurus shroud. The overflow looked really stupid.... and I despise the metal strapping look - this isn't a farm truck.



But then I leaned the Taurus fan up against my factory shroud. My eyes got big, and oliver sudden it hit me..... that baby sits right in there. So, I eyed it all up and noticed it would fit rather well if I just trimmed it down. It's hard to explain where I cut it exactly, but there are a few different "levels" of material. I cut the lip off of the lowest point, and just followed that line throughout. I also trimmed a corner to help it fit my shroud better. Here is what I trimmed off - and I did it all with my "Multi-Tool" from Harbor Freight.



Here it is mounted into the shroud. I just ran to Lowes and got some more bolts and nylon nuts for it. In this pic, I only have four 1/4-20 bolts holding it in. Also, I reclocked the motor so the wires are facing the drivers side . I may move it one more position clockwise.



This is how it fits. I really like this "factory" look better.



Here is the clearance I've got.





Sent from my Quad Core Acer A210
__________________
white89gt is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-27-2013, 05:21 PM   #5
RangerSVT
Co-Founder
 
RangerSVT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Fan#: 1269
Location: Indian Mound, TN
What I Drive: V8 Fords

Posts: 4,525
Rep Power: 75
RangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True Fanatic
Shane, the sensor can be a negative or positive trigger, you have one input and two outputs, one for each temp trigger. Negative is the most common trigger, so if the wire happens to short to ground, it won't short circuit and cause a fire, it will just cause the fans to stay running. You can hook the positive side of the relay coil to a switched power, this way it will only run when the key is on, eliminating the worry of a run-down battery. The down side to this, is the fan won't run if the radiator is hot enough to trigger the fan to come on...


SVT
__________________
In-house Ranger Tech Expert
96 V8 4x4 Ranger on 47's
02 V8 4x4 Sport Trac on 32's
Y2K F150 4x4 Lariat
RangerSVT is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-27-2013, 05:21 PM   #6
white89gt
Administrator Shane
 
white89gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 1293
Location: Salt Lake, UT
What I Drive: 1989 Mustang GT, 1997 F150

Posts: 5,016
Rep Power: 75
white89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Member
Forgot to post this above. I did a test on the motor as well:

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


Sent from my Quad Core Acer A210
__________________
white89gt is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-27-2013, 06:26 PM   #7
white89gt
Administrator Shane
 
white89gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 1293
Location: Salt Lake, UT
What I Drive: 1989 Mustang GT, 1997 F150

Posts: 5,016
Rep Power: 75
white89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Member
Here is a picture showing where I mounted it:



And what the final product looks like installed. I really like being able to have the overflow bottle in the correct location.







Sent from my Quad Core Acer A210
__________________

Last edited by white89gt; 04-27-2013 at 10:11 PM.
white89gt is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-27-2013, 10:35 PM   #8
white89gt
Administrator Shane
 
white89gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 1293
Location: Salt Lake, UT
What I Drive: 1989 Mustang GT, 1997 F150

Posts: 5,016
Rep Power: 75
white89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerSVT View Post
Shane, the sensor can be a negative or positive trigger, you have one input and two outputs, one for each temp trigger. Negative is the most common trigger, so if the wire happens to short to ground, it won't short circuit and cause a fire, it will just cause the fans to stay running. You can hook the positive side of the relay coil to a switched power, this way it will only run when the key is on, eliminating the worry of a run-down battery. The down side to this, is the fan won't run if the radiator is hot enough to trigger the fan to come on...


SVT
Don't think I can use a positive trigger.



Sent from my Quad Core Acer A210
__________________
white89gt is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 05-03-2013, 01:39 PM   #9
white89gt
Administrator Shane
 
white89gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 1293
Location: Salt Lake, UT
What I Drive: 1989 Mustang GT, 1997 F150

Posts: 5,016
Rep Power: 75
white89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Memberwhite89gt Outstanding Standing Member
I went and got a 3/8" NPT to 1/8" NPT adapter. I drilled it out with a 1/2" bit and tapped it to an M14 X 1.5mm thread. This is what it looked like: (Also, the first pics taken with my new Galaxy SIII).



Notice I said "looked like" above. That's because it was so thin that it broke of in the housing when I was tightening it up (I snugged it up really good, oops). Maybe I should have used steel. But it luckily broke off with the threads flush with the top of the thermostat housing. BONUS - more clearance. Here she is, and what a PITA it was to tighten it.

white89gt is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 05-03-2013, 08:45 PM   #10
RangerSVT
Co-Founder
 
RangerSVT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Fan#: 1269
Location: Indian Mound, TN
What I Drive: V8 Fords

Posts: 4,525
Rep Power: 75
RangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True FanaticRangerSVT True Fanatic
Looks good, Shane


SVT
__________________
In-house Ranger Tech Expert
96 V8 4x4 Ranger on 47's
02 V8 4x4 Sport Trac on 32's
Y2K F150 4x4 Lariat
RangerSVT is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:38 AM.

Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved. : Terms of Use : Copyright : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information

Blue Oval Fanatics - Online Ford Community for the UK, North & South America, Europe, Asia, Australia, and Africa regions. We are the Internet's Newest Ford Forum. As our site continues to grow, we'll be offering a large collection of Ford related news, articles and club events information. We also offer a free Ford classifieds, gallery, social groups and events information. Our goal is to be the premier information outlet for Ford owners. If you own other makes have a look at Challenger Hellcat Forum, Charger Hellcat Forum, Cadillac ATS-V Forum, Cadillac CTS-V Forum, Lexus RC-F Forum, Lexus GS-F Forum, Mercedes GLA Forum, Mercedes GLE Forum and Volvo XC90 Forum.